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December 15, 2015

Intrasoft Technologies : Temptation to book tax free profit .

                I was waiting for Dec first week from last few months so that I could sell my entire remaining holding to get tax free profit of around 8-9 times of my initial capital(brought in range of 45-52 ) invested but instead of selling I started buying back more from already booked profit , you will say we know you are Idiot but this much never thought. I had already sold my some shares when I bought Olympia Industies and TechNVision , and reduced to 40% when despite write off by the company and market price was still above 560 . This first week of December , I could have easily said Thank You very Much Intrasoft and Bye-Bye but no I didn't . Despite write-off why I still bullish on it . Initially like others I though it is very much negative but when I talk to one of the senior investors whom I interact on email said if you expecting all products from product based company are going to be commercially successfully then you are having wrong expectation . There will be some products which will not taste commercial success . He said even Google try lot of things , at different stages they stop those project only handful of projects escalates to next level . I am not sure how they write off cost of these project but they had to reflect it . But Google is Google we can't use it for comparison at all . Intrasoft explained that "When we started the e-commerce venture, we pursued 3 or 4 models at the same time because we did not know what will work out. We thought that the auction format will work out and we thought the marketplace model for itself worked out. So as we got traction on the current model we pursued the development on that and put on hold the other models. When we recently reviewed the assets under development and found them non-revenue generating we found it prudent to write them off. Anyway, since April 13 we were advised to debit all software development expenses directly to the PL account thus there has been no addition for
the past two and a half years."
It is true conservative investor don't like write off but in product based companies it is a reality unless debited in PL account . If I correctly remember then around 2008 Vakrangee has done write off of around 50 crores . But from 2008-09 level of under Rs 1 (adjusted) Vakrangee share now trading around 165 . It means whopping 165 times return in 7-8 years .



PE can be misleading : 
If two companies are trading on same PE of 100 then does it mean both are trading on same high valuation ?
Lets say I give choice of two companies to choose for investment for 5 years both trading on high PE of 100 (Ignore moat other factors for simplicity)
A . Top line Growing 50% CAGR and has NPM of 30%
PE is going to be half after 5 years due to various reason not related to company .

B. Top line Growing 50% CAGR and has NPM of 0.5%
PE is going to be half after 5 years due to various reason not related to company .

Of course you will choose A . But now if I say that A will have same NPM of 30% after 5 years but B will have NPM of 3% then ? Then , equation will be change and I will have to choose B .

Why ? 
A will give around 3.5 x return if PE drops to 50 but B will give 21x return even if PE drops to 50.
So, basically if a company which has scope for NPM expansion(generally young companies) trade on higher PE then it can be misleading and it is completely wrong to compare with others who already has good mature business with very good NPM .

When business news channel compare Intrasoft and Archies then




But ,next time if you analyse a company with high PE then apart from quality, moat , expected growth and other factors, don't forget to add the scope of NPM improvement .

Most of the Indian investors expect profit growth , high ROCE , high margin from even from young companies  . They are not at fault because unlike USA we have not seen companies growing their top line first and then focus on profitability . We all have seen young IT companies like Infosys not only growing their top line but even same time bottom line from very young age .On the other  hand we have seen Pantaloon which was expanding top line but it was funding it growth through debt or equity dilution because it had asset heavy business model .


Due diligence of reported GMV : 


Few investors might not be believe in reported numbers of Intrasoft , lets cross check reported numbers . In fact , we should always do our due diligence before buying any stock .
Ideally , I should have done lot of offline check like talked to management , employee ,vendors , courier partners , Amazon , ebay, even Intel if I am seasonal full time investor. But I am not full time investors so I don't have luxury do all these . So , I relied on online whatever information available to do cross check . Of course , it is estimates and it can't be 100% accurate but it should be accurate with error margin(contingency) of around 20-25 % .

As we know Amazon USA contributes highest GMV to Total GMV of Intrasoft . They have never disclosed GMV shares but As per my initial analysis . It should be the following  .

Amazon USA30-40%
Ebay USA25-35%
123stores.com5-8 %
Rest (Amazon Canada , Alibaba’s 11main.com , Sears.com New Egg ,Rakuten (buy.com) , Bestbuy.com and newly added Jet.com )25-35%

Intrasoft has TTM revenue of around 497 crores out of these around 460 cr should be GMV of e-commerce division .
Now if we talk to seller on Amazon ,eBay you will come to know that actual orders are 8-12 times of feedback count .
Now look at the following feedback count of 123stores on Amazon USA .
http://www.amazon.com/sp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=&isAmazonFulfilled=&isCBA=&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A3SQ9YFE6CSCS0&tab=&vasStoreID=



If we see last TTM feedback count is 42310 but reduce to 40000 due to seasonal effect from last month .
Now as per management Average Order Value in Q2 FY2015-16 = Rs. 3994

But, lets verify it from independent website which track and give rank to Amazon sellers .

http://www.marketplacepulse.com/amazon/usa

http://www.marketplacepulse.com/amazon/usa/stores123



You will notice that how fast 123store is growing in USA. They have life time rank of 372, 1 year rank of  72 and one month rank of 30 .

As per them Average sale price is $75.98  = around Rs 5000 . Management has given Rs. 3994 avg for all the e-commerce websites .
So lets assume that it is 4500 on Amazon USA .

So total GMV of Intrasoft on Amazon USA should be = 40000 * 10 * 4500 = 1800000000 = around 180 crores = Around 39% of 460 crores .

If we consider avg order at 4000 then it comes to 160 crores which is 35% of 460 crores which is also in our range .

Now , look at eBay feedback count .



If we see last TTM feedback count is around 40000 lets reduced to 38000 to seasonal effect from last month .
So, total GMV of Intrasoft on eBay USA should be = 38000 * 10 * 4000 = around 152 crores = Around 33% of 460 crores .

Their own website 123stores.com has around 7000 daily unique visitors(last year it was not around 2500) (source : http://123stores.com.alexaview.com/ , if order conversion rate is mere 5% then they should have daily order of 350 .

So, total GMV of Intrasoft through their direct website 123stores.com = 350 * 4000 * 365 = 511000000 = 51 crores = around 11 % but management always said below 8% .

So, our estimates and reported GMV are very close, not much variance .

If you seen http://www.marketplacepulse.com/amazon/usa/stores123  closely you might have noticed that it says only 581 product in stock or even if you visit http://www.amazon.com/s?marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=A3SQ9YFE6CSCS0&merchant=A3SQ9YFE6CSCS0&redirect=true it shows only 574 .
Somehow , there is some issue with Amazon USA storefront , not only for 123stores but others as well . It shows count only from few categories only .

Lets cross check it as well . Give following query to Google .


site:http://www.amazon.com/ "sold by stores123"
site:http://www.amazon.com/ "sold by Pharmapacks"
site:http://www.amazon.com/ "sold by Wayfair"

stores123 gives around 48,800 results while Pharmapacks gives 40,500 . Please note Pharmapacks is second ranking seller on Amazon USA and these results are only for the listing where they are are offering top 3 offers to customer for given listing/product. So , actual listing may be 4-5 times more . Even Wayfair returns around 88,100 records which has market cap of more than Rs 24000 crores . https://www.google.com/finance?cid=1060469309126722  . We will go in detail of Wayfair in next few sections .

So, it proves that they have lot more listing than what Amazon store front URL of 123store is indicating  .

Now check on eBay it is showing more than 160000 product listing .

http://stores.ebay.com/DynamitePrice






Now , you will get confused like me . What is this store name DynamitePrice ? I had received Intrasoft eBay store URL from them officially . But since name is something different we should cross check that as well . I didn't get DynamitePrice and 123store or  Intrasoft relation using Google search . I tried lot of things still no luck . But , then somehow I got relation hint once I found that DynamitePrice eBay store is using some image URLs of 123stores.com by viewing view source option(HTML).


Now, they have appointed Grant Thornton as new auditor for 123store (USA e-commerce division) .
Grant Thornton LLP is the American member firm of Grant Thornton International, the fifth largest accounting network in the world by combined fee income.[1] Grant Thornton LLP is the sixth largest U.S. accounting and advisory organization.


What I liked about management they used to upload audited result of USA subsidiary from last few years even before coming to limelight last year . It may be easy to cook book in India but in USA it is comparatively very difficult due to improved laws in recent past .
So , if they are cooking book then following parties should be involved like management , Amazon , eBay , old auditor , new auditor Grant Thornton and even Intel which holds around 12% .

It is very rare possibility. So , I don't have any doubts on reported numbers .


Lets evaluate on required qualities which experts like Ian Cassel look into micro cap multibaggers Run by "intelligent fanatic" :No doubts , we don't consider Arvind Kajaria in intelligent fanatic category yet but if he continues to do what he did in last 5 years to next 4-5 years then not all but some people like me will include in this category .We should give whatever credit Arvind Kajaria and management of Intrasoft deserve . Whatever, Intrasoft did in last 5 years is simply amazing and if continue to grow at same rate for next 5 years then it will more amazing . They had revenue of around 23 cr from e-commerce (123stores) in 2010-11 but after 5 years this years they are likely to post around 720 crores from e-commerce division (considering 130% growth for two remaining quarters) . It will be around 31 times in 5 years with 99% CAGR over 5 years . If they deserved criticism for something they could have done better then also deserved appreciation for what they have done so far in e-commerce division. Market leader and dominates the small but growing market : 123stores/Intrasoft is not market leader of e-commerce but they are growing fast and may be become top 5 seller on Amazon USA in next 2-3 years . If we consider marketplace inside marketplace model then Nasadaq listed WayFair comes first then not sure but Intrasoft should be second in the world . Asset light business model : Both WayFair and 123stores has quite similar business model . They're not actually carrying much of any inventory. They're the middleman between all these independent vendors and suppliers. They're connecting them to people who are shopping online. If you're gonna sell stuff that's 1,000 lbs or 500 lbs it seems like that's the way to do it. Rather than having massive warehouse facilities where you're holding all that inventory. They directly ship from vendors .They are cash flow positive. Earlier WayFair used to have major business from third party websites but now it has 81% from own websites like Wayfair.com, Joss & Main, AllModern, DwellStudio and Birch Lane . It still has GMV around 19% from third party websites like Amazon , eBay , even WalMart etc . But , 123stores has more than 90% business from third party websites . Even though they don't usually carry inventory but before some big festival sale they own some inventory so that they can quickly fulfill order received and avoid cancellation.As per my knowledge Even they have arrangement to return inventory if not sold . Normal days based on earlier volume , they get certain quote of a product XYZ from vendor. They add certain cost like shipping , marketplaces fees and gross profit etc .Based on this they decide price and list that item in different marketplace. Once , order received their integrated system in real time(or may few minutes time gap) inform to vendor . Now , vendor pack it and handover to courier service partner of 123store and this get delivered to customers . After few days they received payment from marketplace . They settle their due with vendor . This is normal flow but there might be some other flow like return etc . Now obliviously you will ask why Vendor will come to 123stores instead of direct listing ? Business models born because of certain needs .They can but they choose because 1) It is very difficult for small or new seller to show their listing at top . Even if it is lowest price then also it will not appear in top . Like Google, Market Place search engine has some complex formula to order listing of item for a given search.No doubt price is one parameter but there are few others as well like total number of order processed , Feedback etc . 2) They will need some technical expert to decode it . 3) In house team of technical expert will not be affordable to many vendors because of minimum wages in USA . 4) They will also need a team of non tech person for lot stuff like competitor pricing , talking to customers to address some issues , even handling marketplace communication etc .Most of the market places require that you answer an e-mail within 24 hours.The would have to hire customer support agents just to answer Amazon’s queries. 5) Remember what Achal Bakeri ("intelligent fanatic"), founder and CEO of Symphony Limited said "In an ideal world, I would outsource everything, except the bank account". Vendors try to focus on their brand, quality etc. and they just want to outsource online selling to WayFair or 123stores . Wayfair claims to have seven million products from over 7,000 suppliers so there is lot of scope for 123stores . Scalable Business model : It is highly scalable business model . In fact , they just need to clone it for new marketplace and new country. They already might have good design pattern , they just need to extend interface, start coding as per new marketplace and in few months integration ready from technical point of view . US e-commerce market is very huge if somehow the growth slowdown for them then they can enter in any other developed market . It is very huge scalable business model. You have every right to think otherwise if you have any doubts . They have not completely utilized 123greetings.com for free leads to business to their website . So far they have only small link . There are milions of unique user visit 123greetings.com every month . I am still clueless why US people use so much for greeting , In India we just wish on what's up . Nevertheless , if they do little redesigning with banner of 123store with attractive offer then they may get lot of free business leads . Not sure about legal aspect but they have very huge email database of 123greetings.com , they can utilize it to send marketing message with best offer of 123stores for free business leads . High ROE : We will have to give exception on this parameter which will be compensate by high growth of more than 100% . Low debt or debt free : Company has grown topline of e-commerce division by 31 times in last 5 years but debt has been reduced from 11 crores to mere 5 crores . This was possible because of asset light and highly scalable business model . Small equity base and equity dilution : They have not diluted equity from at least last 5 years even grown so much. In fact, they do still have treasury shares around 8% which can be use for expansion. This is amazing you can fund the expansion by selling treasure share without diluting equity . Little institutional ownership : Intel venture capital has picked up 12% stake long time back not just because of expectation of long term profit but also to serve some strategic interest of parent Intel . Zero MF holding and FII just started buying in only last quarter (Sep 2015 ) . 
On other hand if you looked at WayFair then Bank of America upgraded Wayfair from a neutral rating to a buy rating and set a $45.00 target price on the stock in a research report. Citigroup Inc. lifted their target price on Wayfair from $33.00 to $45.00 and gave the stock a neutral rating in a research report . Piper Jaffray reiterated a buy rating and set a $60.00 target price on shares of Wayfair in a research report.Finally, Wells Fargo reiterated an outperform rating on shares of Wayfair in a research report.Five research analysts have rated the stock with a hold rating, nine have given a buy rating and one has given a strong buy rating to the company’s stock. The company has a consensus rating of Buy and a consensus target price of $48.31. Bye the way all are not positive on Wayfair, Whitney Tilson has short position in it . He has personally raised formaldehyde issue, stock reacted little negative but then bounce backed rapidly. Undervalued : When I first discussed Intrasoft it was hugely undervalued and was having market of just 70-75 crores . Now, it is 600 crores but at this valuation also it is undervalued . Black Friday & Cyber Monday ( 5 days period ) they have reported 160% growth . So, if we consider these remaining quarters they will show 130 growth in GMV then total revenue for year will be around 785 crores . So ,assume on safer side Rs 700 crores from e-commerce division which we will use for baseline . Now we will see magic of compounding at high rate and focus topline , topline , topline , topline ................. again topline and then profit business model which has tested success in USA but in India we not experience such success so far ( excuse me for my ignorant if any )

CAGRGMVPAT @ 3% NPMMcap @25 PEMcap @30 PE
Best10022,4006721680020160
Avg8013,227396.819920.2511904.3
Decent302,59977.971949.252339.1


They have grown by around 100% CAGR in last 5 years , currently growing at 130% CAGR but still growing at 100% CAGR in next 5 years is very very much difficult but not impossible .
So , I will again warn you 100% CAGR is best case , We will have to track it during entire holding period and take decision depend on it . This is not moat investing where we buy and forget it .Even at 30% growth in topline we can have 3 times return in 5 years . 
So during our holding period we have to closely watch growth rate and how much NPM will it achieve once business got mature .  One of the rarest of rare but still possible possibility is they never turned profitable consider that as well . It is very very low risk but still risk , can't ignore it completely .


Margin Of Safety : 
Let assume they continue to grow at 100% next year , it means GMV will be 1500 crores . Now investor says we don't want model which can work for US based investors . We want immediately profit , can't hold loss making company or high PE , it gives some non explainable feeling and we also don't have patience ( kal kisane dekha hai ?) .  Somehow , due to these type of investors management comes under pressure , they started to focus on profit . So instead of targeting 3000 crores next year they target same GMV of 1500 cores but at 4% NPM . So they can make around 60 crores since investors love profit making company that too in e-commerce they may give at least 20 to 30 PE .  Probable market cap will be in range of 1200 crores to 1800 crores in two year . Not bad from current level of 600 crores.

Another margin Of Safety comes from NASDAQ listing . Earlier some investors request about appointment of reputed auditor and NASDAQ listing . First wish has been fulfilled . As far NASDAQ listing is concern they were open if Indian market don't give comparable valuation and it adds shareholder's value . 
If NASDAQ listing happens then it can easily get 2-2.5x GMV because it is growing faster than WayFair . Some of the believer of Wayfair model who has missed the bus due to late IPO may show good interest in 123stores.
Once, they get some scale and do roadshow to existing investors of WayFair for fund raising then also they are likely to get good response .



Conclusion : It is one of rare visible opportunity with some margin of safey. 


P.S. (17 Dec 2015)

         Vakrangee investors made 165 times(sorry, by today's price 185 times) in 7-8 years after IT asset write off , it doesn't guarantee Intrasoft will also give good return despite write off . But one thing is sure market reacts badly to detox but if business is good then it may even rewards in long run .



       
      I have added this section since one of the blog reader Aman Vij has raised valid red point about write off.
       Now , after this I dig into write off matter of Intrasoft. I am not accounting expert but I tried my level best to understand it . However , If you have CA background you can send email to me with your unbiased analysis to value2wealth.india@gmail.com .

Now a days write off means complete write off and no direct or indirect benefits to the company . But , earlier it was not the case .
Even before the IPO (2009) , Intrasoft use to write off using "Miscellaneous Expenditures Written off" . It again look like simple write off but no it means "The Expenditure having the impact on the workings of the company in subsequent years or benefit of which shall continue in one or more subsequent years is recognised as Miscellaneous Expenditure.Such Expenditure is written off in equal installment in five years starting from the year in which they have been incurred. "

It was use as account of amortization . E.g  you are working on a XYZ product in year x but that product is going to be launch in x+1 or x+5 years then this term "Miscellaneous Expenditures Written off" is used because this year this product is not going generate any revenue or no use. There might be some alternative to this approach but they followed this .

Now , problem started when after IPO money they rapidly started working on some products but that might have increased deferred revenue Expenditure , but after few years as per revised Schedule VI they no more use this term so they had to debit General Reserve Account .

    You can not have doubt on corporate governance on a Tata group company . You will better understand it from Voltas example , how that revised Schedule impacted the companies.
Voltas -Utilization of share premium a/c to adjust the deferred revenue exp- confirmed by High Court Mumbai    
http://www.bseindia.com/corporates/anndet_new.aspx?newsid=1edb8ccb-c832-4bbf-a7e7-a6506822dca7

Intrasoft had also accumulate lot of deferred revenue exp , they had to adjust that in General Reserve Account after revised Schedule VI. Now , they have clearly indicated in last conf call this is last write off as per their review process. Let's hope for the better .

Some of the other companies used deferred revenue exp, Fixed Assets Discarded or write off are ...

Dabur
http://www.bseindia.com/bseplus/AnnualReport/500096/5000960311.pdf


 Repro
  http://corporates.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachHis/Repro_India_Ltd_200514_Rst1.pdf


  http://www.bseindia.com/bseplus/AnnualReport/532687/5326870314.pdf
 
 Ashok Leyland 
 Ashok Leyland Ltd has informed BSE that the Board of Directors at its meeting held today (December 10, 2002) has approved a proposal to write off against the Share Premium Account of the Company as sum not exceeding Rs 1600 million representing Deferred Revenue Expenditure (primarily related to Voluntary Retirement Scheme Payouts) and diminution in value of some investments and fixed assets. 
 http://www.bseindia.com/corporates/anndet_new.aspx?newsid=f01a1096-65d1-4909-a1a6-e529180596f4

  BHARAT HEAVY ELECTRICALS LTD
 http://www.bseindia.com/corporates/resultNotes.aspx?Scrip_cd=500103&scripName=BHARAT%20HEAVY%20ELECTRICALS%20LTD.&qtrcode=31.00

Torrent Pharma
http://www.bseindia.com/corporates/resultNotes.aspx?Scrip_cd=500420&scripName=TORRENT%20PHARMACEUTICALS%20LTD.&qtrcode=35.00

STEEL AUTHORITY OF INDIA LTD.
http://www.bseindia.com/corporates/resultNotes.aspx?Scrip_cd=500113&scripName=STEEL%20AUTHORITY%20OF%20INDIA%20LTD.&qtrcode=40.00

 

GMV Amazon USA Ranking :
            store123 has improved it's one month ranking today from earlier 30 to 25 (http://www.marketplacepulse.com/amazon/usa/stores123) . I believe list get updates everyday. Interestingly it might have in top 5 contributor to third party sale on Amazon USA in last one month because as per marketplacepulse.com it's Average sale price is $75.98 while other having like $10 , $20 . If we multiply one month feedback and Average sale price then we may get GMV ranking based on feedback count . I am sure it will be in top 5 but I will do this exercise on spare time or weekend . 







Disclaimer :  Please treat this post as starting point of your research and not conclusion to invest in any discussed stock. As always , please take the advice of a SEBI qualified financial adviser which I am not .

SideNote/MustRead : I am not sure how much you can learn from Idiot like me but you will defiantly learn lot from Jana Vembunarayanan . Please read his valuable lecture note https://janav.wordpress.com/2015/12/12/final-lecture-note-its-not-easy/



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September 14, 2015

Olympia Industries Ltd : Annual Report and preferential allotment update.



As you know I have already invested in Olympia Industries ltd and I have covered that here 

Annual report of Olympia Industries Ltd is now available on BSE website . Recently they had announced "Subject to the approval of members of the Company and appropriate authorities, the Board has decided to issue and allot 30,00,000 Convertible Warrants of Rs. 10/- each to Promoters and strategic investors on preferential basis pursuant to Section 62 of the Companies Act, 2013 and SEBI (Issue of Capital and Disclosure Requirement) Regulation, 2009. "

I was very much impressed with this announcement and I had given thumps up to promoter for showing courage in falling stock price to allot convertible warrants . I was calculating price by the following formula which was giving price more than 180.

Pricing of equity shares.
76. (1) If the equity shares of the issuer have been listed on a recognised stock exchange for a period of six months or more as on the relevant date, the equity shares shall be allotted at a price not less than higher of the following:
(a) The average of the weekly high and low of the closing prices of the related equity shares quoted on the recognised stock exchange during the six months preceding the relevant date; or
(b) The average of the weekly high and low of the closing prices of the related equity shares.

But when I saw annual report I just return to reality from a daydream . There is one more addendum to above rule for case of infrequently traded shares where total volume for last one year is less than 10% shares of total paid up capital of the Company .

Pricing of equity shares of infrequently traded shares:.
The price determined by the issuer shall take into account valuation parameters including book value,comparable trading multiples, and such other parameters as are customary for valuation of shares of
such companies:

Provided that the issuer shall submit a certificate stating that the issuer is in compliance of this regulation, obtained from an independent merchant banker or an independent chartered accountant in practice having a minimum experience of ten years, to the stock exchange where the equity shares of the issuer are listed .

So , annual report has special resolution no. 11 as per that







I don't say it is illegal to issue preferential Convertible Warrants at 45 when market price was more than 150 but surely as minority investors I am not feeling comfortable with management . Recently , one of the micro finance company Satin Creditcare (listed on NSE SME platform) raised 51 cr on preferential allotment from SBI cap where min price as per formula was around 105 but they have decided pricing as 130. This is not only one example of higher than min price, there are many .This is the world of small micro cap stocks you can't do much .  I can do voting against this resolution item no. 11 but as minority investors I can not achieve much . So , I will have to think 360 degree and vote. Not decided yet.  If this resolution get passed and all warrants get converted then I may feel betrayed as minority investor because I got this share cheaply but they will get dirty cheap but there are couple of positive things will emerged in this counter due to this.
1. It will more closer to get out from P group , It will be just 2 lakhs demat shares away from getting 50% public shares in demat format .Once , it get out from P group there will be more buyers.
2. Promoter shareholding will increase from 60 to around 72 % . That will show confidence of promoter in this company and lot investors this is one of the parameters to enter in this type stock . I am still sure this company will create lot of wealth specially for promoters . And If they learn consider minority shareholders as equal partner then It will create lot of wealth for us as well. keep watching .
3. They are injecting new young blood in promoter group which can understand current world of e-commerce properly and can bring some innovative ideas .
4. They are allotting warrants to Paresh Baghat of mangal keshav Securitues  and Meenakshi Kanoongo. I have not done much research on them but Paresh Baghat looks like stock picker . You can read one of his a interview http://www.investmentmap.com/PareshBhagat.htm . I believe they are are here not just because of short term gain play by getting allocation at dirt cheap rate and sell on conversion and vanish. I hope if they are not fly by night operators then they can also bring some investors along with this . Keep watching them as well .



Another point that bothering me how they can avoid Open Offer on conversion warrants into equity share since they can't increase more that 5% in a year without open offers to other shareholders .
There are some exception like CDR cases but not sure If they got such exception , they will have to clarify else you need to drop a email to them if existing shareholder .
To be frank, I didn't like their corporate governance practice even though we don't expect much from small companies . They have not communicated on the following points to exchange announcement board.

1. Whatever information they have given in annual report that should have been communicated to exchanges . So , far they have not announced investors details and quantity to exchanges . They should have done it with all details including their PAN number .
2. How these 2 new non promoters are strategically fit for company . I am not convince .
3. Soft copy of valuation of Rs 45 should be submitted to exchanges . I am not convince . May be after seeing it I can get convinced .
4. I have not received Annual Report on my email account of demat account yet (14 Sep) when annual meeting is on 27 th Sep .


Olympia Industries Ltd is now new economy e-commerce stock and the person who still valued all the companies on old parameters, we can not get right valuations from him. We need check how valuation of Rs45 (mcap 15 ) came . Do you know initially just dial was valued at 15-20 lakhs by their own CA during first round of funding? . Read this article http://www.livemint.com/Companies/tDrombRRkpmPiIQZAkVlJI/The-learnings-of-Just-Dials-VSS-Mani.html 


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July 16, 2015

Olympia Industries Ltd profitable e-commerce (CMP 165 , market cap 50 crores)

         Please note I am not SEBI qualified research Analyst yet.    

 I am feeling little better investor and stock picker after recent success of last few picks, in fact Intrasoft is biggest gainer on NSE in 2015 till June with huge difference with second and third gainer.  It has already given 11 times return to me in 7 months. I should not be carried away with this success but just want to cherish this moment, sooner or latter somebody else's pick will be biggest gainer . I am still in learning phase , I need to learn lot of stuffs about picking right compounding stocks or may be multibaggers .

           My new stock pick for myself which I am accumulated is Olympia Industries Ltd . It is again e-commerce play . It is profit making e-commerce play but size is still small . They have revenue of around 123 cr last year . They have reported profit of 4.57 cr against previous year's 0.36 crores (35.92 lakhs ) which around more than 1200% jump . Olympia Industries Ltd also reported revenue of 123 crores against previous years only 6 crores (around 20 times increased ). This growth is on low base so obliviously growth in percentage term will be reduce from current year .So , we can't expect something like 2000% again.Olympia Industries Ltd is Premium / Platinum Seller on Amazon . You can see their store front from the following link http://www.amazon.in/s?marketplaceID=A21TJRUUN4KGV&me=A2MTUGD8XKAQL0&merchant=A2MTUGD8XKAQL0&redirect=true . If you search olympia industries ltd then Google shows another Olympia industries page . Their correct website is http://www.olympiaindustriesltd.com/

History : Olympia Industries Ltd  went into BIFR in 2001 and scheme was sanctioned in 2012 . Olympia Industries was discharged from from the sick industries' company vide BIFR Order dated 23 December 2013 by Board for Industrial and Financial Reconstruction (BIFR). Historically, the company started with manufacturing of Dyed and Blended yarns in Gujarat and Maharashtra. Presently with the company’s state of art technology and its insurmountable passion for excellence the company is now spreading its wings in Marketing & Promotion of Baby care, Home & Kitchen and Beauty & Personal Care Appliances products through E commerce on Amazon . They call them self FNFG E commerce player .


What is special ?

You will say what is special about Olympia Industries Ltd ? We already seen growth in revenue and profit . Secondly, it is profit making e-commerce company that is again rare. We already know size of opportunity in e-commerce sector , I will not go again in deep in it . It has EPS of 15 for whole year and trading on PE of around  11 and valuation of less than 40% to revenue(GMV) . These points itself speaks about good prospects of Olympia Industries Ltd . But there are lot more that makes it very attractive bet  .


 Along with Narayan Murthy' CloudTail, Olympia Industries Ltd is also Platinum Seller on the world’s largest Online retailer Amazon . As per unconfirmed reports CloudTail contributes around 8% to GMV of Amazon India while Olympia Industries Ltd contributes around 2.5% . Cloudtail is a 49:51 joint venture between Amazon Asia and Infosys founder NR Narayana Murthy's personal investment vehicle Catamaran was forged in last summer (2014). If Olympia Industries Ltd continues good growth and archive some scale then some other big investor can consider to invest in it . Already , Azim Premji , Narayana Murthy  and  Ratan Tata invested in e-commerce .  http://profit.ndtv.com/news/industries/article-flipkart-amazon-battle-pits-murthy-against-premji-641274 .
 If FDI in e-commerce is allowed then it will be hot cake since foreign player eyeing this type of companies , if no FDI then domestic big player will have their eye on it .


 Interestingly , CloudTail has more scale of operation but customer feedback of Olympia Industries Ltd is quite better .

 http://www.amazon.in/gp/aag/main?ie=UTF8&asin=&isAmazonFulfilled=1&isCBA=&marketplaceID=A21TJRUUN4KGV&orderID=&protocol=current&seller=A14UQ4H17XUX90&sshmPath=

Cloudtail Feedback
Olympia feedback

We see lot of negative comments in feedback section since more than 90% unsatisfied buyer express their feeling through negative comments . Only 10-20% satisfied buyer express their felling by positive comments and rest don't provide any feedback.Above table consider buyer as positive if the don't provide feedback . Negative percentage 1% or 2% is on total number of transactions done by seller . But if we go in comments details we see lot more negative comments than these percentage indicates.


Group 'P' : 
            Since, initially company was in yarns manufacturing and went into BIFR due to accumulated losses in 2001 that time most of the shares were in physical format and BIFR scheme was sanctioned in 2012 that is after 11 years . So , most of the investor didn't converted stock from physical to demat . I suspect some of the investors might have lost physical shares paper .

SEBI has started new group P last year where Public shareholding is less than 50% in demat form.
http://www.bseindia.com/markets/MarketInfo/DispNoticesNCirculars.aspx?Noticeid={C04B49EF-9C38-4A7E-A608-5A01CCDFD3CB}&noticeno=20140827-27&dt=08/27/2014&icount=27&totcount=30&flag=0


So, according to new rule at least 50% of Public shareholding should be in demat form in order to change the group and lot of the Company at BSE.
Till March 2015 only 95335 shares of general public out of 1195215 shares were in dematerialized format.
This year NSDL has also started dematerialized process so this year we will see significant increase in dematerialized shares .

http://olympiaindustriesltd.com/img/investor-relations/sharholders/share-holder-Info/dematerialisation-of-shares.pdf

https://nsdl.co.in/downloadables/NSDL-Updates/NSDL%20Update%20-%20February%202015.pdf

Till that time it will be traded in P group with Market lot of 100 shares , it means we can buy only 100 , 200 or 300 and so on shares . We can not buy odd shares like 60 etc .
Top of that most of the brokerage houses do not allow to buy in P group example ICICIDirect don't allow to buy it.


Float :
              Olympia Industries Ltd call them self as FNFG e-commerce player . Good quality FNFG player like HUL enjoys float (Other People Money ) and high return on capital employed. Similar to other FNFG players Olympia Industries Ltd also enjoy good amount of float and has reasonably good ROCE for year 2014-15.

 Most of the e-commerce seller worldwide don't make much money because of high inventory model . Olympia Industries Ltd also has high inventory level but that get compensate by high Trade Payable which is quite similar to HUL . No doubt HUL is quite big quality player and not comparable with Olympia Industries Ltd  but I want make a point that Olympia Industries Ltd on similar path . Olympia Industries Ltd in his second innings doing some good think like venture in e-commerce that too FNFG . They are able to run their business on other people's temporary money by obtaining trade credit from their vendors . Let see statement of Assets & Liabilities for 2014-15 .



Now check Professor Sanjay Bakshi sir said about float .
https://fundooprofessor.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/flirting-with-floats-part-iii/ 

In brief as per Bakshi sir company can enjoy float either by advances from customer or good amount of trade payable that can compensate inventory plus trade receivable .



Total shareholder fund is 8.56 and short term borrowing is 3.28 and total equity and Liabilities is 40.57

So company enjoys float of 40.57 - 8.56 - 3.28 = 28.73 crores
Company has inventory of 31.61 and trade receivable of  1.89
31.61 + 1.89 = 33.5 against float of 28.73 .
So they just need get finance for 33.5 - 28.73 = 4.77 crores .

So , they are enjoying float of almost 85% which is going to improve in coming years . They are enjoying float more than other good companies like Symphony etc . If I get time on this weekend then I will try to compare with some small cap good stocks like Nesco , Poddar Developers Ltd  etc and update this post.
It is also nicely explained at
http://www.tankrich.com/2014-40-evaluating-moats-floats/ 

Moat :
If a company enjoys float then there is obliviously good chance of  moat . In case of Olympia Industries Ltd they do have high trade payable by obtaining trade credit from their vendors . Why vendors are offering trade credit  ? Obviously vendor know capability of Olympia Industries Ltd and their track record . E-commerce is again new channel for them to increase their revenue so it is obviously win-win situation for both . They can't offer trade credit to everybody .


Olympia Industries Ltd biggest premium seller on Amazon India after Narayan Murthy's CloudTail .

Olympia Industries Ltd enjoys good moat on Amazon India platform . I can't say it is unbreakable strong moat but it is reasonably good moat .

Amazon India or any market place search engine has their own rulesets which helps bigger player to become more bigger . When user search a product then displayed search result based on lot of rules few of them are

1. Status / Ratting of seller (premium seller get preference )
2. Total Numbers of order(All) processed by seller
   3. Searched product sold by sellers.
4. Of course price ( Bigger player has volume advantage for price)
etc

It is quite difficult for new small player to show their listing at top so bigger become more bigger (positive feedback loop) .

Whenever Market places go for big day sales then they depend on big premium seller instead of small sellers .


Power of sequential Multibaggers :

People says compounding is eight wonder of the world , I would say in investing world sequential Multi baggers are first wonder .

Let me explain .......

My investment of Rs 1 in kaveri in Aug 2012 ( Post on kaveri seeds) turn out to be Rs 5.5 in dec 2014 ( I had sold my 50% holding in kaveri and invested that in Intrasoft) . Now that Rs 5.5 become around 60 (11 times) this month(July 2015)  in Intrasoft  (Post on Intrasoft ) and Kaveri seeds is hovering below my sold price (Although , I still hold few shares of Kaveri). I have sold my holding of 12% from Intrasoft (avg price around rs 540 , against my avg of Rs 48 ) and invested that in Olympia Industries Ltd . I still believe Intrasoft will grow much faster than Olympia in coming years but I had to invest something in Olympia Industries Ltd and I can't wait till next month's salary .

If by god's grace Olympia Industries Ltd double from my avg price of around Rs 158 in one year then I will have 120 baggers (1*5.5*11*2)  in 4 years . That is quite significant since  Raamdeo Agrawal  says he has only one 100x bagger in his life i.e. Hero Motocorp  . Although , He might have lot of sequential multi baggers . Lot of other senior investors of micro cap like VP sir (http://value-picks.blogspot.in/ ) ,Porinju sir , Ayush Mittal , Amit Arora etc might already have this type of 100x sequential mutibaggers but this will be my first . Fingers are crossed .

Basant sir already has explained Power of sequential Multi baggers in his book (the thoughtful investor) in his words . Must read for all Indian investors . http://www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in/

I may be day dreaming of 100 fold return in 4 years but I am same person who had to bear losses on companies like Agre developer and Chowgule etc . I have learnt lot from that point but still I need to learn lot in investing world . I can pass test only if my portfolio performs comparatively good in bear market as well.



P.S. (19 July 2015 )

Risk : They mainly depend on one market place Amazon India performance .  Secondly , company came out of BIFR and playing second inning . We have seen Symphony has created wealth after company came out from BIFR but we don't know if Olympia will also create wealth for us or not . If promoter show integrity and want to share wealth with retail investor then no doubt about that it will be good wealth creator . Promoter just need to follow good corporate governance practices .

Valuation : 
              It is trading below PE of 12 and around 0.4 x to sales . If we compare with other listed e-commerce player even though they have different model then we can say it highly undervalued even though it has appreciated 6-7 times this year .

Intrasoft is trading on mcap to sales ration of 2.x . If Olympia Industries Ltd gets same valuation then it should have mcap of around 250 crores .
Infibeam is asking about at least 7-8 times to sales (GMV) . I don't want to speculate valuation of  Olympia Industries Ltd based on Infibeam valuation .
               Info Edge (India) Ltd ( Quite different e-commerce player ) is trading on 10700 cr mcap on sales of 600 crores with PE of 470 .

For me Olympia Industries Ltd has all the following ingredient which is necessity for future wealth creators or at least few baggers .

1. Large scope of opportunity
2. Among rare profitable e-commerce player
3. Enjoys high float (85% )
4. Low net working capital requirement ( around 5 crores only ) due to float .
5. High ROCE above 50  ( Most of the websites will reflect it only after annual report of 2014-15 )
6. Shown High growth , even though this June quarter or first half will subdued .
   7. Non Cyclic FNFG player.


Finally what Jeff Bezos says about finding good companies , we can judge Olympia Industries after at least 3-4 years of good performance . Right now , it is too early .





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Disclaimer :  Please treat this post as starting point of your research and not conclusion to invest in any discussed stock. In fact I already invested in Olympia so my views are going to be biased . As always , please take the advice of a SEBI qualified financial adviser . 

February 8, 2015

IntraSoft Technologies Limited : Recent Developments

I would not provide details analysis of recent quarterly result , It has superb numbers . I was expecting revenue of 270-280 cr for full year but now we will have to increase that target to 340-350 cr since last 12 months trailing revenue is already around 290 cr .

I would like to focus on behind the scenes development . I have identified 2 developments .

First development .If you visits https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/25829786 then you can see that they are looking for V.P. Corporate Finance at 123Stores.com . This job advertisement has following description .

S/he will work with the founders to collate data, present to investors and be the central figure in closing each transaction.
The V.P.'s responsibilities will include:

•   Collating, preparing and analyzing complicated numerical information.

•   Compile and pitch presentations to the Investors.

•   Liaise and identify appropriate Investors.

•   Participate in the negotiation of term sheets, due diligence and the preparation of
      definitive documents.

•   Investor Relations.

Management has taken tiny step in right direction by seeking profession help instead of doing each and everything themselves .

Second development .

They have mention during quarterly result announcement "To increase our focus on the E-Commerce business, a new company was set-up in USA under the name of 123Stores, Inc. to carry out the E-Commerce operations. " This looks bit confusing for existing investor since we were already aware about 123Stores, Inc. But they actually means 123Stores was under 123Grectings.com, lnc.  Now it is moved from 123Grectings.com and became direct subsidiary of Intrasoft technologies .

If you connect both the developments then we can come to conclusion they are looking for funding for their  E-Commerce business . So, I will not be surprise If see first round of funding for 123Stores, Inc in next few months . They can start with around 10 % but they will have to make sure after few funding rounds their holding should not drop below 50% else it will become their associated company .

Benefits of Funding :
No doubt about it will bring dilutions . But it will help company to accelerate it growth further . We should appreciate the company for getting this much growth with internal accruals .We don't know what should be the correct valuation for Intrasoft but this funding may give some hint for valuation of the company .


Worst case for E-Commerce in India :
        All the E-Commerce running their business on mercy of state govt policies . If all the state follows rules & regulation like Uttar Pradesh does then all the E-Commerce companies will be on their knee .Right now , We don't need to worry about it for Intrasoft . I am not CA but may be GST will make life of E-Commerce companies comparatively easier  .

Most of the E-Commerce companies are not accepting order from Uttar Pradesh  including Noida . All most all the courier companies like Blue Dart , Fedex has stopped shipping to Uttar Pradesh .The  following process is the reason behind it . They don't even have any minimum limit for item value to follow following process . So, if buyers order even 200 worth of item he has to follow this process .

Uttar Pradesh  Process:  
Non-commercial shipments addressed to individuals, Govt. Agencies and unregistered dealers require to be accompanied with Form 39.

Forms 39 are in 3 parts marked original, duplicate, triplicate. Original part is retained by Sales Tax department of check post at the time of entry and the duplicate delivered to consignee along with the shipment.

Form 39 are issued by UP sales tax authority. Form 39 is valid for one month only. Validity of Form 39 is mentioned on the form.

These forms are obtained by the consignee(buyer) signed & stamped and the triplicate copy is retained by the consignee and the original and duplicate are sent to the consignor(seller) by consignee (buyer). The original and duplicate copies of these forms as applicable should be signed and stamped by consignor (seller), consignee (buyer) and sales department of UP.

Form 39 without signature and stamp of Sales tax department of UP is not valid. It should be properly filled with stamp and signature of consignor & consignee.

Collect original & duplicate of these forms as applicable from the consignor(seller) at the time of pickup.

Check whether the forms bear the signature of the consignor & consignee and are properly filled.

If the sales officer finds the goods are undervalued then a penalty of up to 40% on the assessed value is levied.

The consignee(buyer) either pays the penalty for clearing the shipment or has to prove to the sales tax officer the correctness of invoice value to get the penalty waived.

Again , I am not CA their might be some other if else conditions for E-Commerce companies but if it is current process in UP then why individual buyer will take all this pain ?


Worst case for Intrasoft : 
I don't believe in theory of  that big E-Commerce companies are going to finish all small E-Commerce companies . In case of IT all bigger companies become more bigger but small remain small or got finished . But that not be true in case of E-Commerce since in IT Industries the main customers were big companies they needed scale and expertise . But in case E-Commerce there might be some customer become loyal to biggies but there will be always some customers who will chase low price and even can become loyal to small E-Commerce companies if this small companies concentrate on customer stratification instead of increase in GMV . Big companies can acquire small companies and consolidate industry but with my limited understanding I can say that they can't kill all the small E-Commerce, may be some will die natural death .

 Nevertheless , if you assume that after 5-10 years only top 4-5 player will be exist in  E-Commerce industry then in that case also Intrasoft will not go to dust due to company's business model . Right now, It generates revenue firstly from direct sale at 123stores.com and secondly it generates revenue from shop in shop ( marketplace inside marketplace) format from companies like Amazon . If Amazon is going to survive then there is good chance even Intrasoft will also make some money .Their platform integrated with Amazon is in production and they are still working on similar platform for Alibaba .

This it the all information available in public domain If any brokerage house setup a conf call then we get some details in deep . Not sure, if currently any brokerage house is following this stock .


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